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11/12/2008 03:31:04
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Mikkel
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You froze a fight and koed Rocky for the title ?
Here's what he wrote:
"Paul Dion Junior asked for title shot and I gave him one against Rocco Marchegiano. We boxed, it was fun but I won ever round. At round 9 it started suddenly lag with lag getting worse. In the end it froze. I waited and saw Paul Dion Junior log off and logged off mysself and relogged. THe match showed up as frozen in the fight list (round 1/15).
So I stay on but eventually have to go. Later on I log on back and found that somehow that frozen match not only continue but Paul was able to log back on to that match despite earlier on logging off. He freeze KOEd me taking the title and giving my boxer his first loss.
Here is the match and freeze ko at 9th round:
http://onlineboxing.net/applet/index.jsp?fight_id=731442
Here is the score card leading to that situation:
http://onlineboxing.net/ob2d/templates/jsp/scorecard/view_scorecard.jsp?fight_id=731442
and some discussion about it much later: "
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11/12/2008 09:32:51
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Paul Dion
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Hey. This is untrue. Let me give the real story.
I came online. Asked Rocky for a shot. He gave me one. (knowing he would beat my ass)
So we fought...a lot of people were online watching. He was beating me comfortably on points. Then it started to lag a bit late on in the fight. Then it froze...so I waited as I thought it might be super lag....I was reluctant to close the 'fight screen window' because it might be unfrozen soon...EVENTUALLY it unfroze..probably after 2 or 3 minutes of freeze..(feels long when you are just sat there waiting)...and I knocked him out in the fight.
Some will say it is unsporting. But I believe if someone disconnects from the fight...why should I close the fight and lose? The person who disconnects...it is their fault...so why punish the other fighter?
I will gladly fight Rocco again...where he will take his title back.
(but am I right in saying that Rocco did not give Unbeaten his mandatory rematch)...Rocco beat Unbeaten...took his title...Unbeaten asked for the RM and Rocco refused. Is this sporting?
Discuss...
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- Join Date: 2006
- Status: Active
- 7 time OBW World Champion
- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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11/12/2008 13:11:30
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Paul Dion
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I did come back online about 15 mins after that fight... but Rocky was not there so I waited a while then left. I am a fair fighter and I don't duck anyone. Rocky would have won that fight on points if he didn't disconnect from it...so of course he gets his rematch...Rocky helped me out in the past when I needed to tune up my fight style...plus he is English...so I like the guy!
So what should I do now? Wait until Rocky gets online to give him RM? Or defend it against whoever is online in the top 20?
@ Redneck - I ended my "war" with you long ago...have you not noticed that I don't talk shit to you anymore? ... you irritated me like crazy and lured me into arguments and trash talk...but I'm over it. I call for a cease-fire.
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- Paul Dion Junior: W320 L165 (KO319)
- Join Date: 2006
- Status: Active
- 7 time OBW World Champion
- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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11/12/2008 14:09:34
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Skillz
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Fight..But dont defend till u RM Rocky, its rightfully his title...
IF HE WANTS IT.
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11/12/2008 15:55:00
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sterlihalla
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Lmao rocky crying about losing a title whats new? lol rocky crys about almost everything.
It happens just keep the title dion because if he had of done it to u then i almost ganrantee u wudnet get a rematch.
Besides he was on a alt and alts shudnet get the priveledge of a rematch and its not his first loss hes lost alot of times but he just creates a new alt everytime he losses lmao.
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11/12/2008 20:12:33
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Paul Dion
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I was online the same time as Rocco...he was on his alt... I told him to come into OBC room so he can have his RM!
So I go into OBC...everyone else follows.. (all harrass me for titleshot) lmao!
So I'm waiting and waiting...he still not logged back on yet...but I will wait longer..I hope he gets online soon!
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- Join Date: 2006
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- 7 time OBW World Champion
- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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12/12/2008 10:12:20
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Rocky Marciano
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edited by Rocky Marciano.
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- OB Accounts: Rocky Marciano plus too many alts
- Join Date: 2007
- Status: Retired for now. Logs on every now and then just to troll.
- OB Class: A+++++ Elite and yes you got it right a FIVE STAR Elite.
- Goals: Been there, seen that, done it all so none other than reaching 1000 fights (on an alt) with above 90% win percentage I have been hunting after ever since joining OB2D.
- Titles won: too many to remember
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- Best win streak 132 wins in a row in total.
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- Signature Punch: The Rocky Marciano combo (now also available without french fries).
- Signature Taunt: Letting opponent recover back to full healt before KOing him for good.
- Weakness: Fatny, the king of OB2D
- Career highlights: Been there and done it all but yes there is one little thing that rises above all titles and such: making Reaper quit after I tkoed him 16 times in a row all inside first two rounds. We were supposed to box 100 times
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- Stupid nickname given by other players: Mini Fatny.
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12/12/2008 17:19:32
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Paul Dion
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Rocky doesn't want his rematch...we just spoke now...Redneck and others are witnesses. So I will give the shot the VARGAS!
Shows I'm no ducker!
RIP DION
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- Join Date: 2006
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- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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13/12/2008 04:51:57
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Ray Johnson
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Paul Dion wrote:Rocky doesn't want his rematch...we just spoke now...Redneck and others are witnesses. So I will give the shot the VARGAS!
Shows I'm no ducker!
RIP DION
Still a dick move IMO.
Rocky was winning and was obviously gonna win so that makes you a fake champ. You can't say it was his fault he froze, cause it might have been your lag. Simply:
Freeze KO'ing can be funny.
Freeze KO'ing for the title is f*cking stupid.
I hope nobody else does it.
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13/12/2008 09:03:44
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Paul Dion
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Ray Johnson wrote:Still a dick move IMO.
Rocky was winning and was obviously gonna win so that makes you a fake champ. You can't say it was his fault he froze, cause it might have been your lag. Simply:
Freeze KO'ing can be funny.
Freeze KO'ing for the title is f*cking stupid.
I hope nobody else does it.
If someone disconnects from the fight either on purpose or by accident...it is not the other fighters fault, is it? ... so that is my point... why should a fighter who doesn't disconnect close the fight and lose his chance...because the other fighter disconnects!!! For all you know Ray...if everyone closes the fight when an opponent disconnects...people may start fights strong and then later in the fight notice they have lost a lot of stamina ...and purposly disconnect from the fight.. so they don't get KTFO in the later rounds... that would start to happen.
It is much fairer to say..DON'T DISCONNECT FROM FIGHTS OR YOU LOSE...IF YOU DISCONNECT BY ACCIDENT... UNLUCKY MATE... JUST A CASE OF BAD LUCK!!!
It annoys the shit outta me that a lot of people on here give the advantage to the guy that disconnects... it isn't fair...so what if they disconnect from the fight by accident...it's unlucky but the other guy didn't disconnect so why the fu*k should he be punished for it!!!
I rest my case!
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- Paul Dion Junior: W320 L165 (KO319)
- Join Date: 2006
- Status: Active
- 7 time OBW World Champion
- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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13/12/2008 12:01:56
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Fatny
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Paul Dion wrote:
Ray Johnson wrote:Still a dick move IMO.
Rocky was winning and was obviously gonna win so that makes you a fake champ. You can't say it was his fault he froze, cause it might have been your lag. Simply:
Freeze KO'ing can be funny.
Freeze KO'ing for the title is f*cking stupid.
I hope nobody else does it.
If someone disconnects from the fight either on purpose or by accident...it is not the other fighters fault, is it? ... so that is my point... why should a fighter who doesn't disconnect close the fight and lose his chance...because the other fighter disconnects!!! For all you know Ray...if everyone closes the fight when an opponent disconnects...people may start fights strong and then later in the fight notice they have lost a lot of stamina ...and purposly disconnect from the fight.. so they don't get KTFO in the later rounds... that would start to happen.
It is much fairer to say..DON'T DISCONNECT FROM FIGHTS OR YOU LOSE...IF YOU DISCONNECT BY ACCIDENT... UNLUCKY MATE... JUST A CASE OF BAD LUCK!!!
It annoys the shit outta me that a lot of people on here give the advantage to the guy that disconnects... it isn't fair...so what if they disconnect from the fight by accident...it's unlucky but the other guy didn't disconnect so why the fu*k should he be punished for it!!!
I rest my case!
Not the other's fighter fault but probably not the one that disconnected either so since he's the champ, since he was whipping you in a one sided affair, since most of the fight was already done and since he was kind enough to give you a shot you give him the benefit of the doubt and close the fight without making that kind of bitch move imo. I'm sure the champ would give another shot soon since after since it wasn't a "complete" fight.
Only time i'd see it as okay is if you're the champ (not the challenger) and if either the fight isin't far or you have a good reason to think you'd win it even if you're behind.
WHEN I'D DO IT:
-if i was champ and it's only a few rounds in and it's pretty close and the challenger froze i'd freeze ko him (losing a belt 2 rounds to 1 would suck, fight just started) and give him another shot asap.
-If it was close or i was losing on points, but had the challenger in DEEP TROUBLE and he disconnected i'd freeze ko him, no matter where it was in the fight (exemple if he's in his corner with red bars hanging for dear life).
-If it was close or i was losing on points but the reason for it was the challenger had thrown punches like a psychotic energizer bunny and as a result had a STAMINA much worse then mine and then disconnected, i'd freeze ko him (someone could win most rounds by throwing an infinity of punches early but he's going to have to pay for it in the later rounds, i won't allow him to just do the good side of the medal and then disconnect as i'm almost certain he'd be going down).
That's it i can't think of other cases where i'd freeze ko right now. And those are only if i was the CHAMP. If i was the challenger and the champ froze, i'd automatically close the fight no matter what and at worse i'd just ask for another shot after. The challenger has nothing to lose from a freeze, just quit and either you'll win by points or either you'll lose and get another shot.
Well i say "only if i was a champ" but it's not 100% true, i'd also do the above freeze kos if i had a good streak. Just like a belt it's something you can lose.
anyways just my
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13/12/2008 13:39:09
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EDDIE54
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Haha OB still the same
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14/12/2008 10:15:54
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Ray Johnson
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EDDIE54 wrote:Haha OB still the same
You mean, in your week of absence, nothing has changed? No shit..
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16/12/2008 01:06:03
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First off I read only one post and it was Dions. He did the same to me in a non title fight.
Look Dion u said its his fault. WRONG. U cant tell whos fault it is heres the deal.
He loged off u said... Why does that make it his fault? Its not like he was kicked off the fight then the fight resumed in 30 seconds.
He left because he saw that it froze. If u would have loged off and Rocky stayed he would have been able to resume and not u.
OB will resume after 30 secs or so if a fight is kicked off or his connection drops. Thats the case in most freezes but some times the fight will freeze for both fighters and one will leave the other will stay and the fight will resume.
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16/12/2008 17:48:52
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Skillz
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He knos tht..
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